DO YOU HAVE A STORY TO TELL US?

Have you confronted passengers and been met with abuse or intimidation?
Do you sit in silence and grit your teeth?
Or does the music not actually bother you?

Please tell us what you think about the new signs to be included on London Buses.

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Due to the amount of messages we have received we have taken the decision to stop updating this section of the site. However, all your comments will be passed on with the petition. We have tried to provide a broad cross-section of everything you have said. We chosen not to include the few objections to the campaign that we have received, quite simply because most of them contain offensive language and none contain constructive criticism.

'I emailed the Mayor of London and his office responded that they were doing something about it. I've now seen a new poster on buses, abut 15 inches size, which mentions music players remaining personal but you cant really see it and its amongst four other messages on the poster. Can we push ken to get this changed? I'd like to think the astronomical rise in fares was going towards making my journey just a LITTLE better!!'
Ron Moger

'It would be useful if TfL put this message on stickers and placed it in windows of trains, buses etc. Tthe posters are in an inaccessible area on buses which most people cannot see. At least then passengers could points culprits to the message!! It needs to be stronger - this message was around years ago!'
Simon Rasey

'I think that the signs that are now appearing on the buses are a waste of time. They are very small and not very easy to see and also there is no mention that is against the by-laws to disturb the peace of fellow passengers. I think that until on the spot fines are implemented this annoyance from generally non-paying passengers will continue. In recent weeks this problem has got worse rather than better on all 5 bus routes i may use.'

'I believe that the signs are a very nice 'gesture', but will fall on deaf ears! (No pun intended) The answer would be REAL people approaching antisocial behaviour in REAL situations. But at the moment people are too scared. And it should not be left down to the public to sort out anyway.'

'I find it extremly irritating, inconsiderate and ignorant to constantly have to ask people to turn off their music when I am travelling with my 4 year old on the buses as I do not want her to be exposed to music with swearwords etc.'  Ayaan Bulale

'How many more times must the rights of the majority be put aside for fear of offending the minority?'  Anne Melder

'If issues like this are left up to the few individuals brave enough to risk abuse or violence to confront those creating a nuisance, they are dismissed as fussy eccentrics, which is extremely socially damaging, especially in the long-term. There has got to be an official policy. This problem cannot be tacitly condoned.'  Charlotte Howden

'Couldn't agree more. Hope this gets the attention it deserves and stops those undesirables from annoying others.  Good luck.'  Derrick Robinson

'I don't want to have to listen to other people's music - that's what earphones are for!!'  Hannah Goudge

'I AM A BUS DRIVER/SERVICE CONTROLLER. BAN THIS ACTIVITY, IT IS AGAINST PSV REGULATIONS AND IS ANNOYING AND DANGEROUS.'  Ian WheldaleI

'I am a London bus driver sick of having to listen to music on passengers mobile phones.'  June Clarke

'As a bus driver for almost 20 years this problem has now become unbearable.' 
Paul Bishop

'It's simply rude, personal systems are exactly that, personal!'  Andrew McKillican

'When buses were run by local authorites they used to display notices saying byelaws forbade the playing of any radio or other device to the annoyance of passengers. When did this change? Bring it back!'  Ruth Arnaud

'At last I know I'm not the only one who's had enough.'  Sarah Winmill

'It's ridiculous to assume that anyone should be obliged to listen to someone's elses choice in music especially in a public place... its a blatant invasion of ones personal space'  Anna Dempster

'I find extremely inconsiderate when people play music on the loudspeaker of there mobile phones.'  Iaan Butler

'Absolutely! This behaviour is just so selfish!'  Mark Walker

'This is the single most annoying thing about public transport today. Delays, breakdowns, overcrowding I can deal with, but this is just rudeness beyond belief and makes me want to get a car. '  Robin Bates

'PLEASE extend this campaign to the overground trains and Tube network!'  Andrew Cock-Starkey

'Any proposed ban / changes should be extended to the underground. The problem is exactly the same there, often with several individuals playing their music simultaneously. Impossible to even read in peace now.'  Phillip Wood

'It is the same situation on the Croydon Trams (TramLink).'  Tracey Barnes

'I'd say that 1 in 3 journeys on the DLR are now accompanied by the tinny nuisance noise.' Michael Downes

'Great idea, hopefully this will spread to other cities (such as Leeds).'  Andrew Ellwood

'The problem is just as bad in Manchester.'  Christopher Hughes

'The ban should apply not only on London buses but NATIONWIDE'  Farah Malik

'We have the same problem in Cardiff and we're tiny compare to you!!'  Michelle Stevenson

'In other countries, such as The Netherlands music *is* banned from public transport.  Tfl need to follow suit.'  Nicholas Ransom

'May I also add - many of the culprits are children of schoolage.  We are SUBSIDISING their bus fares. Are we not, in effect, PAYING for them to make our daily commute a misery.'  C Han

'It drives me absolutely mad. And what enrages me even more is that it is often from children who pay no fare.'  Dan Bidewell

'Getting on a bus is like entering a teenager's bedroom. The music playing is utterly disrespectful to other passengers on the bus. I think it gives youth of today the message that they can be a nuisance and get away with it which will ultimately lead to more bad behaviour. '  Jan Husseyin

'Teenagers playing music out loud in groups is a major problem on the busy bus I use.'  L Wood

'This practise seems mostly to be school children.'  Nicholas Digance

'My journey to work is regularly - approaching daily - made a misery by having to listen to music from people's mobile phones etc.  '  Julia Moore

'Travelling on buses now can be a truly horrible and frustrating experience.'  Margaret Bovingdon

'I work as a teacher. This is a stressful and tiring job. My journey is regularly ruined by people playing music out loud. I cannot read or work because the noise is so distracting.'  Mary Stones

'I am a school child myself and when there are people playing music when I'm on my way to school at 7.30am it is the most annoying thing. It's bringing shame on us young ones, it should definitley be banned.'  October A

'It is very stressfull to me as I use public transport often and I like to use the time to gather my thoughts and relax. Instead I get irritable and wound up. Not nice!'  Rudyard Chambers

'I am sick to the back teeth of been bullied by music being imposed upon me on buses or tubes'  Sue-Jane O'Keefe

'I am a 13 year traveling every day on bus, most afternoons our journeys are disrupted by the people who prefer to annoy everyone else by playing their music very loud, then shout to each other because they can't hear their voices above the noise.'  Emily Welsh

'I am a DJ and love music more than most due to my work. There are times and places for music and transport is definitely not the ideal place. People have enough stress fighting to get onto or off transport without the added noise pollution.'  Ken Martin

'My teenage daughter constantly comes home after school complaining of headaches from people on the back of buses playing their music too loud.'  Richard Tapsall

'I have Auditory Processing Disorder, and hyper-sensitivity to sound. I would love a semi-peaceful bus journey!'  Robin Bray

'Music out loud on buses is anti-social behaviour of the worst order, and as a public sector organisation London buses should do its best to deter it.'  Ian Fribbance

'It is highly anti-social to have other people's music forced upon you, and more often than not you are subjected to abuse if you ask them to turn it down.'  Jonathan Hermon

'I have taken to walking the 3 miles to work most mornings as it is unbearable.'  Alison Craig

'It has got to the stage I actually get off the bus and wait for the next one.'  Christopher Reddy

'It has to be the most irritating thing on London transport. I usually change carriages.'  Forestize Jya

'I have resorted to driving to work and paying £5 for parking rather than getting the bus for 80p.'  Jo Hampson

'I have resorted to hailing down a taxi. Cost of travel from £1.50 to £10.00 just from fear of safety.'  Martyn Bayliss

'I have faced up to youths playing loud music on their phones before. When I got off the bus I was threatened with being stabbed for standing up to them!'  Andrew Wheal

'When I have asked them to turn it off I have been subjected to a torrent of abuse.'  Anita Murphy

'Two 13/14 year old girls got on the train and insisted playing their music loudly and singing along to it despite me asking very civilly for them to turn it down. This request resulted in appalling language directed at me. I complained to three ticket inspectors who totally ignored me and joked with them.  How can we win when employees of London Transport are too weak to uphold it?'  Anne Wright

'People have been knifed to death for questioning youths on buses so individuals are unable to safely address this intimidating and selfish behaviour. It must be banned and the ban must be enforced.'  David Scott

'Last week I was assaulted by two young girls on a bus because I asked them if they could turn their music down. I'm still really annoyed that not one person, including the bus driver came to my assistance even after they threw a bottle at my face. '  John McGirr

'I've stopped asking people to turn their mobiles down after several incidents of abusive language and once being physically threatened.'  Nathan Phillips

'Recently I politely asked a group of teenage girls to turn down the music on their phone whilst travelling on a packed bus. I was greeted with a hail of abuse. I think other passengers on the bus were to intimidated to say anything'  Sasta Miah

'I have twice tried to ask boys to turn their music down, or use headphones. Both times I have been subjected to unprovoked verbal abuse, intimidation and swearing. Other people get nervous so don't interfere, so the "attacker" feels emboldened, and  I feel this is now becoming a power thing amongst youths.'  TL Rissik

'If signs can stop smoking why cant they stop intrusive music.'  Brian O'Hara

'Smoking was banned, so why can't the same be done here? '  David Salgado

'If smoking can successfully be banned on public transport, then so can playing music aloud.'  Helen Brander

'Why can't TFL recognise that drivers have a role to play in monitoring all passenger behaviour? You bet if I lit a cigarette something would be done!'  John White

'Bring back the conductors to help deal with things like this!'  Carol Parkinson

'You should bring back conductors to enforce this issue. '  Carole Lawlor

'It is crazy to leave this matter to passengers.  London Buses must assume its proper responsibilities and regulate this matter. '  Lester May

'More security needed on buses and trains as many young people are very agressive when asked to turn the music down'  Sheila Snoddy